So, Liberate Bio’s focus has been guided by delivery success rather than pre-defined targets?
I think that’s a fair characterisation. We identified promising delivery sites in the bone marrow, spleen and muscle, through high-throughput screening of hundreds of lipids. In a limited resource environment, the team had to prioritise what was working best and let data guide development.
We found that if you solve the delivery problem, even for a single cell type, like cardiomyocytes, it isn’t a narrow solution; it opens up several well-validated targets. Each target might underline a unique pathology requiring delivery of a different nucleic acid cargo, yet a single delivery vehicle could now support an entire therapeutics pipeline. So, there is this balance of directed energy and prioritisation, balanced with opportunistic reality. You prove that the platform works to produce the revenue that allows you to follow up on other hits.
Today, despite the success we’ve had delivering to immune cells, sitting in the back of all our minds is:
- What about the hits in other cell types and tissues we deprioritised?
- What about the hits in hemopoietic stem cells we haven’t followed up on?
- What about the hits in the heart that might confirm delivery into cardiomyocytes?
- Could we improve it by administering it intra-arterially rather than IV?
- What if we delivered these nanoparticles with intrathecal administration?
Across the industry, delivery to the CNS remains a tremendous challenge. What would the results look like if we bypassed the blood-brain barrier directly and explored hundreds of nanoparticles? Is there one that would do a great job in neurons or some other cell type?
They say strategy is not what you do, it’s what you choose not to do. We’ve chosen not to do all those things. But they also say the things you regret most in life are the ones you didn’t do. So, I don’t know what that balance looks like over a long-term horizon, but I’m trying to find it. Today, we’re focused on delivery in a single space to prove the potential of a new modality, CAR-M.
But even this ‘single space’ is bigger than you might imagine– if you can create CAR-Ms that effectively deplete malignant cells, whether with BCMA or with CD19 (different target antigens), even that one nanoparticle with these two targets could treat 50 indications in the autoimmune space, or solid tumours, or multiple myeloma. You can address so many unmet needs when you have effective delivery to a particular cell type. We all want to chase answers as scientists, but it’s hard to stay focused. That’s why it’s a difficult business in many cases. We’re very focused, but we also think we should follow the data and see where it takes us.
Unlike CAR-M, we know CAR-T works, and we believe in vivo CAR-T works. We don’t know much about CAR-M, we don’t know how that’s going to play out in terms of efficacy and safety. We have some hypotheses, we have some good supporting evidence, but until we get evidence in humans and understand what those profiles look like, it’s hard for me to tell you. Is multiple myeloma the best possible application because I can clear malignant cells both in the bone marrow as well as in circulation? I mean, that would be quite a good thing. Or is it possible that CAR-M has a much more friendly safety profile from cytokine release point of view that you could extend these therapies to earlier, less severe indications in the autoimmune space?
We think those things are possible, but until we prove them, we can’t be sure. What’s clear is that even with this sort of tight focus, there’s just so much opportunity.
When you’re working to solve fundamental delivery challenges of an emerging class of therapeutic modalities, the potential is enormous. We can afford to be selective. If the only thing you do in your entire career is solve sickle cell disease with an in vivo administration, you’ve had quite a good career. So, it is an exciting position to be in and it goes back to the founding of the company. Ultimately, Liberate Bio was created to solve this fundamental delivery challenge. A problem big enough, and valuable enough to dedicate ourselves to fully: create scalable, safe and effective delivery for genetic medicines.